July 9, 2025
In one of the most revealing episodes yet, AI First with Adam and Andy welcomes acclaimed author and tech visionary Steven Johnson, co-founder and Editorial Director of Notebook LM at Google. What began as Steven’s lifelong fascination with digital note-taking tools became a serendipitous partnership with Google Labs, and ultimately, the creation of Notebook LM, one of the most innovative AI-native applications on the market today.
Steven recounts his journey from writing Wonderland and The Infernal Machine to building curriculum software in college, to being cold-emailed by Google after a bold (and controversial) 10,000-word New York Times Magazine essay on GPT-3. That invitation sparked a creative sprint with Google Labs that resulted in a first-of-its-kind source-grounded AI notebook, a tool now used by millions.
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This episode is more than a product deep dive, it’s a masterclass in AI-first thinking, product intuition, and digital transformation from the ground up.